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Re: Teclado Recreated ZX Spectrum de Elite

Publicado: 25 Mar 2016, 09:04
por Blackhero
¡Perfecta aclaracion!, Gracias.

Re: Teclado Recreated ZX Spectrum de Elite

Publicado: 20 Oct 2017, 02:29
por desamr
Hola
Tengo el recreated y un conversor de USB a PS/2 de los que se supone que convierten de verdad. En concreto el KVUSBNF de la marca Black Box.
He probado y nada, no funciona. A veces, justo al arrancar el zx-uno, reconoce como si le hubiera entrado algun tipo de informacion y una tecla (parece que al azar) resulta auto pulsada, pero no rula.
Voy a tratar de conseguir otros teclados USB para probar, y ver si es cosa del teclado, del conversor, o del zx-uno, que no me quiere :,(
Seguiremos informando.

Re: Teclado Recreated ZX Spectrum de Elite

Publicado: 20 Oct 2017, 10:44
por antoniovillena
Si es un adaptador pasivo (sin electrónica dentro) no te va a funcionar. Yo vendo conversores activos por si te interesa:

http://retrolandia.net/foro/showthread.php?tid=109

Re: Teclado Recreated ZX Spectrum de Elite

Publicado: 20 Oct 2017, 11:41
por desamr
Dentro lleva electronica.
Es este:
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Si los que vendes me hacen funcionar el recreated con el zx-uno, desde luego que estoy interesado.

Re: Teclado Recreated ZX Spectrum de Elite

Publicado: 20 Oct 2017, 14:50
por antoniovillena
desamr escribió: Si los que vendes me hacen funcionar el recreated con el zx-uno, desde luego que estoy interesado.
No lo he probado porque no tengo un recreated, pero me suena que @mcleod_ideafix sí lo ha probado.

Re: Teclado Recreated ZX Spectrum de Elite

Publicado: 27 Oct 2017, 03:23
por desamr
Hola, decir que he probado el conversor USBtoPS2 con otros dos teclados mas, un Dell y un Logitech. El Dell no funcionó y el Logitech sí, sencillamente porque el primero no está preparado para funcionar como PS/2 y el segundo sí, así que lo que tengo bastante claro es que este conversor no convierte na de na si el teclado no lo permite a priori.

Antonio, si probáis el Recreated con tu conversor y funciona, apúntame uno!

Re: Teclado Recreated ZX Spectrum de Elite

Publicado: 29 Oct 2017, 23:35
por wilco2009
Yo tengo el de Antonio, y me funciona de maravilla con varios teclados tanto con cable como inalámbricos. Solo me ha fallado con uno de los teclados inalámbricos que tengo,

Re: Teclado Recreated ZX Spectrum de Elite

Publicado: 30 Oct 2017, 23:25
por Eratosthenes
Hi there,

as my (online-) translator doesn't work well, I'm not really sure what you are talking about.

I think the topic is "keyboards":

As the first computer I've got in contact has been a ZX81 and the first one I owned was a 48k rubber keyed, 'n our days I'm a keyboard fetichist...

Therefore just two suggestions from my side - sorry if I'm off topic. I don't understand any word spoken in spanish... :D
- 1st: Best keyboard ever is the real Model M (see link below)
- 2nd: looking at the later Amstrad Speccies there is a better solution than the "klicking" ones...

Everybody, I suppose knows, that this <klick> is the best keyboard that has- and will be ever build on this planet.

Best of all: Model M for PCs was first introduced for PS/2 computers in the mid-/late 1980th. So these things will perfectely fit to the ZX-Uno, looking at the plug. => So, by the way: Everybody who is looking for the best keyboard on earth: Get one of these... ;->

Anybody else: In my opinion there are better solutions for Sinclair compatible users or computers though...

I think that a "less klicking keyboard" could be a better solution for a computer that 1st had a keyboard which was introduced as: "Using the keyboard of a ZX Spectrum (16k/48k) is like fondling a zombie..." :D (Just kidding...)

Looking at the +2 or +3 these computers had really good- and responsive keyboards. Keys that feel very similar to those ones are provided by the brand of Cherry.

As I wanted to get a Keyboard that feels a bit more "Spectrum like" I poked around a bit. The best product I've found was the mobile "Cherry ohne Klick" (*sorry* this is the german name) which has been produced for about two- or three decades. - As buckling spring keys have been derived from IBM typewriters of the 1950th's or so I know that this is "new teck". BUT: Cherry also also provides good keyboards... :D

In my opinion the "Cherry ohne Klick" keyboards are the much better solution for a Spectrum. AND: Until now you will get keyboards having a PS2 plug!

Find my solution in the attached pictures... ;->

Have a nice day.

der Eratosthenes

P.S.: See my "all locale-" black PC keyboard on those pics. (It has Cherry blue keys ("Cherry mit Klick"))
The white one is the one I'd suggest for any kind of Sinclair ZX Spectrum to be used.

Best of all: It's still available with a PS2 plug and - if U are lucky as me - you will get one without the F*CKING Windows keys... :D

P^2.S. (edit): The Cherry Keyboard is not just available with a PS2 plug you can also get it with espaniol layout!!!

Re: Teclado Recreated ZX Spectrum de Elite

Publicado: 31 Oct 2017, 08:23
por yombo
desamr escribió:Hola, decir que he probado el conversor USBtoPS2 con otros dos teclados mas, un Dell y un Logitech. El Dell no funcionó y el Logitech sí, sencillamente porque el primero no está preparado para funcionar como PS/2 y el segundo sí, así que lo que tengo bastante claro es que este conversor no convierte na de na si el teclado no lo permite a priori.
Estás diciendo que el conversor no es activo, lo cual no es cierto. Que no funcione en un solo teclado (de dos) significa que no es perfecto, eso es todo.

Re: Teclado Recreated ZX Spectrum de Elite

Publicado: 31 Oct 2017, 09:55
por jsj
@Erathostenes you are talking about keyboards that cost as much as two, or perhaps three ZX-UNOs.

For example a Cherry like the white one you are showing has a price between 70-80 €, including shipping costs cause that's the kind of keyboard you can't find in a shop near you,

For IBM Model-M, which I confirm is the best-ever keyboard for *typing* (not for gaming), people are asking on eBay around 110-120 € plus shipping.

So, yes, those are keyboards for a lifetime, but don't think much people around here will be willing to pay that much.

I recomend cheaper alternatives like this one:

E-SDS 88 teclas Teclado industrial de alta calidad
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Or this one:

Perixx PERIBOARD-409P
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